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Extremely HIGH GL Readings
3 years ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 8:24AM #18
Vpenning
Posts: 8,840

Like Fur said, it takes time with metformin. The manufacturer says up to 6 weeks for it to make its maximum benefit.You have glucose built up in your blood. It takes time for your body to process that through. Your diet helps to prevent more, but each time you eat, you have to process what you ate, as well as the excess.


Because you are insulin resistant, this takes time. You are correct in that exercise will assist this, as exercise helps open the cells so the insulin can work.


In addition, the benefit that you get from metformin may not be what you expect it to be (depending of course, on what you are expecting it to do). The biggest thing that metformin does is prevents the liver from dumping excess glucose in the blood stream. this is generally reflected best in the early morning hours. Metformin does help somewhat with insulin resistance, but it is not the best drug on the market for this purpose. It also works by helping the body process your food in the intestines...one of the reasons folks get digestive difficulties.


You may be able to help with the hungries, by adding more fiber to your meals. I find 10g per meal is good for me. But, if you are not use to fiber, take it slow and build up.


In addition, some folks find making smaller meals every three hours helpful.


I also find that when I get hungry to drink a full glass of water. Often, your body is signaling that you are thirsty by giving you hunger signs.


Congrats, by the way in sticking to your plan. I know from experience how hard that is. You are doing great!!!

3 years ago  ::  Feb 19, 2012 - 7:26PM #17
furball64801
Posts: 6,977

Feb 19, 2012 -- 6:15PM, Dottie wrote:


Thanks again everyone for all your input.


I've now been eating properly for a week now and I am SOOOOO hungry, but I'm good with it.   I have been watching everything I eat and have cut out carbs substantially.  Maybe too much.   I am back to measuring and counting everything.   One thing I do notice is that I have a lot of energy!!!  I've been tempted to cheat a few times this week but didn't.    Haven't been exercising too much because I've had a lot of things going on this week and didn't have much time to go to the gym.  


One thing bothers me though:   Since Wednesday of last week, the first full day after going to the doctor and increasing my Metformin dose to 2 500mg twice daily, my numbers haven't got any better.   Is that normal?   How long does it take to see any benefit?   I know I'm missing the exercise, but my eating has been good.   (I decided Sunday would be my day to splurge a little so I had 3 of those tiny tiny golden potatoes with my eggs this morning).  I also found a good snack with no sugar and it is the right amount of carbs:   Tostitos Artisan Recipe Chips, the Black Bean/Garlic.  18g of carbs, 2g of fiber for about 10 chips.   And no sugar.   


 


But I'm concerned about hte Metformin not working yet.   Any suggestions?


 


Thanks



Exercise can do wonders for numbers,  if you have been cutting back that might have something to do with it.    Metformin can take up to 6 wks for some to work fully.    Do not be discouraged    I have read many state it was like bingo and it kicked in so give it time. 

3 years ago  ::  Feb 19, 2012 - 6:15PM #16
Dottie
Posts: 12

Thanks again everyone for all your input.


I've now been eating properly for a week now and I am SOOOOO hungry, but I'm good with it.   I have been watching everything I eat and have cut out carbs substantially.  Maybe too much.   I am back to measuring and counting everything.   One thing I do notice is that I have a lot of energy!!!  I've been tempted to cheat a few times this week but didn't.    Haven't been exercising too much because I've had a lot of things going on this week and didn't have much time to go to the gym.  


One thing bothers me though:   Since Wednesday of last week, the first full day after going to the doctor and increasing my Metformin dose to 2 500mg twice daily, my numbers haven't got any better.   Is that normal?   How long does it take to see any benefit?   I know I'm missing the exercise, but my eating has been good.   (I decided Sunday would be my day to splurge a little so I had 3 of those tiny tiny golden potatoes with my eggs this morning).  I also found a good snack with no sugar and it is the right amount of carbs:   Tostitos Artisan Recipe Chips, the Black Bean/Garlic.  18g of carbs, 2g of fiber for about 10 chips.   And no sugar.   


 


But I'm concerned about hte Metformin not working yet.   Any suggestions?


 


Thanks

3 years ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 6:56AM #15
Vpenning
Posts: 8,840

When you are trying to get back on track, one thing I find helps is to A. cut out all processed foods (things like those Debbie cakes not only are loaded with carbs, but enough chemicals to preserve them past a nuclear holocost. LOL)...especially those with High Fructose Corn Syrup in them. This processing takes away nutrients, and the added ingriedients mess with your system. No redeeming qualities... and. B. Eat smaller meals with higher fiber. This will not only keep your blood sugar more balanced, but will also help with the hungry horrors.


Since you are on a limited supply of strips, test on a rotation basis, and try and keep your meals similar. For instance, test around breakfast on Monday, Lunch on Tuesday, Dinner on Wednesday, Snack on Thursday, and then fasting and bedtime on Friday. (Choose what you would like, for the others, or just return to the rotation). This way, you can maximize your strips, and give yourself information.


I also find two diet plans helpful for me. One is the South Beach SUPERCHARGED. The Supercharged one has a better selection of menus and recipes (I think) than the original. It is also easy to follow while eating out, eating with friends, and doing holidays. The exercise section is also accommadating to many levels of fitness...from beginner to those already up to snuff.


As to fruit. I have no problems with almost all fruits. I especially do well with berries. As a matter of fact, I have LOWER numbers after eating blueberries. There is a study, actually, going on to find the properties in blueberries that does this, as from my research, I am not the only one who finds this to be so. I also have good luck with raspberries, and granny smith apples. I do not like bananas, so I do not know really how well I do...but, the few times I did...it was so-so. (Sometimes, you just have no other options for food, if you know what I mean.)


Make sure that as you make changes that you take into account some of your weaknesses. Or you will set yourself up to fail. For instance, I LOVE chocolate...so, if I did not have any, I would sneak, cheat, and feel guilty. Including it daily in my meal plan makes me feel better, and gives me the self control to stay on my plan. Because that small square after dinner is PLANNED.


I also have a once a month blow meal. This meal allows me to have the stuff I love, crave, and want...but, do not work well with my numbers. Pizza parlor pizza and frozen yogurt top this list. I PLAN to have it. Make a date, and look forward to it. It is NOT willy nilly. But, having to look forward to it, I keep on my plan...because I know I am not saying NO, I am saying NOT NOW. Lot better to tell yourself. Some folks feel they cannot do this, but I have found it works very well for me. I use it for holidays, special occasions, and dates with husbands. I let folks know I do it...and, it keeps the diabetic police off my back.


I know you will be successful, because you are taking charge. You have already taken steps to make changes. We are here for you.

3 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2012 - 8:00PM #14
furball64801
Posts: 6,977

Feb 15, 2012 -- 6:36PM, Dottie wrote:


Furball


 


I can eat apples with no problem.  I also can eat, in moderation, watermelon, canteloupe, about 10 grapes and small oranges.   Bananas I only eat pre=workout.  When I was more in control of my blood sugars and worked out all the time, eating a banana prior to working out pumped up my gl's to about 180 but after working out for 1-1/2 hrs, it all went back to normal - about 100.  In fact, my endocrinologist was the one that suggested the banana since it was better than eating granola bars.   My doctor told me yesterday fruit is okay.  In summer, i love watermelon, but never had a high reading after eating it.   As with everything - moderation is the key.  



I am glad to hear you can eat fruit,  some can and some can't  for me  I spike on most of it and stay up there.    Moderation is the key if that works,   for me even a bite  of an apple or orange or  especially grapes I spike so to me I have to avoid it or I would always be high.

3 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2012 - 6:36PM #13
Dottie
Posts: 12

Furball


 


I can eat apples with no problem.  I also can eat, in moderation, watermelon, canteloupe, about 10 grapes and small oranges.   Bananas I only eat pre=workout.  When I was more in control of my blood sugars and worked out all the time, eating a banana prior to working out pumped up my gl's to about 180 but after working out for 1-1/2 hrs, it all went back to normal - about 100.  In fact, my endocrinologist was the one that suggested the banana since it was better than eating granola bars.   My doctor told me yesterday fruit is okay.  In summer, i love watermelon, but never had a high reading after eating it.   As with everything - moderation is the key.  

3 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2012 - 10:43AM #12
furball64801
Posts: 6,977

As much as I love fruit you have to be real careful.     I do not dare touch a orange,  bananna or apple or I go up to close to 200 and that is with insulin.   Its a shame  but they are loaded with sugars.    More veggies with protein and healthy fats might help you keep the bs down.

3 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2012 - 5:01AM #11
Dottie
Posts: 12

Janis:


I know about the Freestyle program; in fact, I now belong to it!   Just got my meter and when I went to the doctor yesterday, she gave me the prescription I needed and my KMart pharmacy participates in the program.


Speaking of the doctor - my Type II is now "uncontrolled" because of the high readings but hopefully can control it again with the obvious changes.  I have to now take 2 500mg Metformins in the morning and 2 500mg in the evening.   The doctor just came out and told me that she didn't need to tell me anything else becauise I KNOW what to do as far as diet and exercise goes.   I go see her again in April so we'll se how it goes.


I've been eating like I used to when I was first diagnosed.  And gosh, I'm hungry all the time.   But I know that passes.     I need to "re-do" my grocery list and put in more fresh veggies and fruit.    Then I'm moving soon, and looked at an apartment yesterday that I loved!   There were actually two units available and another woman came before me and snapped up the one I would have liked.  Not a problem because there was another unit available right above it on the 2nd floor!!   Did not want a 2nd floor unit with stairs to climb but I realize it may be a good thing.    So I'll be "forced" to walk up and down a flight of stairs at least 2-3 times a day!!!   

3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 8:20PM #10
janisroszler
Posts: 7,107

Dottie,


Some of the strip manufacturers offer deep discounts.  Freestyle has a promise program.  If you join, you may only have to pay $15/month for strips.  For more info, go to www.myfreestyle.com.


Janis



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3 years ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 10:02PM #9
Dottie
Posts: 12

Thanks for the replies, everyone.


 


I called my doctor first thing this morning.  She called back this afternoon and casually said "I have an opening tomorrow at 1:30.  There is no negotiation.  You are already on the schedule.  See you tomorrow"!!   So I'm going to the doctor tomorrow!


My insurance is terrible along with the prescription part of it.  There is no co-pay for test strips.  I find that for 99% of my meds, I just go to KMart and get generics for everything - all cheaper than the prescription part of my insurance.  


Note to furball:  I didn't stop testing because I thought I was no longer a diabetic.  I stopped because I couoldn't afford the $100+ a month for strips.   I have done research and you really don't have to pay that much for Strips, pending on the type of meter you have.  Walmart has a good selection of strips for quite a few major meters, and all about $74 for some of them, down to $35 for Walmart brand meters.   So there are options.   My own opinion is we should NOT have to pay so much for the strips.  (I'm sure you've all seen those commercials "IF you are a diabetic and on Medicare,  you can get not one, but two free meters...blah blah blah".   Notice next time you see them - they NEVER mention test strips, just that free meter).   But that is another story.


I, too, basically stopped eating the right foods.   I ate properly most of the time, but went off a lot of times.   My diabetes has been in control up until the last year or so.  Hard to tell since I wasn't testing regularly.   I have been going thru a rough couple of years and the lastyear got the best of me.   Just didn't care and ate things I KNEW I wasn't supposed to.   My portion controls had "no control".   So a HUGE part of this is MY FAULT and now I'm paying the price.   When I was first diagnosed, I felt the way I do now and got real serious about my eating.   I lost 32 lbs in 2 months without even exercising, just eating right.    Since this all started happening, I've been eating teh right waY.   Hungry as hell (at this point) but it is amazing how just a few days of no carbs (except wheat toast for breakfast)  makes me feel.  


I am hoping I did not do permanent damage.   I know that exercise is way important and now I have no excuse not to go to the gym.   Even vacuuming the carpet is enticement for me!!! 


I'm down on myself for letting this happen when I was so good for so long.   But hopefully, I'll be back to square one and I do know what to do.   It's rsetraining myself all over again.   Doctor told me last October, if I lose 50lbs, I would be doing great.   But that is easier said then done!! 


I'll let you know what the doctor says.  


 

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