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Revise the Names of T1 & T2
1 year ago  ::  Apr 15, 2013 - 5:26PM #28
jamiep
Posts: 10

Absolutely, a cure is what is needed and we are all most definitely in this together!  West, we are not saying any of the other things you have posted. Your statements are the opposite of the content, intent and purpose of our petition.  We respect your opinion not to support our cause, but please take a look at our petition and you will see none of the sentiments you suggest.  Thanks again everyone for the hearty discussions.  


www.change.org/petitions/revise-names-of...

1 year ago  ::  Apr 15, 2013 - 5:17PM #27
mber
Posts: 3

A cure is most definitely what is needed! And until we get there... so are name changes. Name changes are needed! The numbered name campaign has failed.  Dramatically.  There is nothing progressive or positive that will come from staying status quo.  There is an open book for re-education, more awareness and clarity that could come from names that reflect the nature of each disease, not just a number.  And boy oh boy...does the media need to "Get it"...  igniting and inflaming the whole stereotype of its what you eat, youre lazy, dont eat this, eat that....and doctors on TV never distinguishing which "number" they are referring to.  Finally we have a real chance of giving each completely different medical condition an actual name that reflects the nature of their disease.  People are born with many different diseases, but I cant think of any other two diseases that are referred to by a number????  The name change doesnt even begin to fully open pandoras box, but its the key to unlocking it ... and that is why I signed.  Plus afer seeing all of the responses from so many T! & T2 adults and kids and medical professionals and teachers and the stories ...I knew I was doing the right thing for me and the type1 and type2 people in my family as well as for my friends who have Diabetes. And along with a supporting a name change, I am still educating, and fundraising and cure focused.  Its all possible! No negative in a name change, just an opportunity for more clarity education and awareness in my opinion

1 year ago  ::  Apr 15, 2013 - 5:03PM #26
west
Posts: 2

We are all in this togeither, Changing names means nothing, a cure is whats needed!! I have a feeling the future will hold more then just names T1, T2, T1.5.  Diabetes is diabetes call it what you want. You can try to say because I am type one , I am a real diabetic. Or your type 2, it is all because your fat. The only thing your name change will do is stero-type. I was born with diabetes T2 grand pa was T1, I did not get diag. until 49 years old. explains alot of prob.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 9:10PM #25
jeanettec
Posts: 2
Oh my, I wasn't even commenting directly to you. I didnt even mention you.  I was making a general statement about confusion and suggesting ways confusion can end.  I just now also read your post from 3 hours ago and would like to thank you for saying you agreed with a name change.  And Mber thank you for your encouraging words and support for a name revision as well.  Have a great week ladies!  Thanks for the opportunity to discuss all of our views and opinions.
1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 8:08PM #24
miciosmom
Posts: 6

jeannettec, I am appalled by your comments--where did you get the information that I stood in the way progress.  On what do you base your insinuation that I have financial, political, or selfish motives?  I don't have any stake in any medical business, my only connection to politics is as a voter--and I challenge you to produce concrete evidence that I am any more selfish than any other human being about their own self interests.


An open forum is supposed to allow people to voice their opinioon--all opinions, not just one you agree with. 

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 7:27PM #23
jeanettec
Posts: 2

confusion is negative, it causes conflict, and it stands in the way of progress.  I would question anyone that would not support the potential to solve confusion, especially if there is limited downside.  Since the beginning of time, people that stand in the way of things such as this have financial, political, or selfish reasons.  You need to ask yourself, "Do I have a justifiable reason for standing in the way of something that has potential to clear up confusion"?  Confusion is an undeniable negative in the medical community - no one can argue that.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 6:41PM #22
mber
Posts: 3

Thats a good point you raise.  I researched your statement about it being foolish to suggest T2 can be delayed or even prevent the disease by a life style change. I found several affirmations.  Such as from the American Diabetes Association as follows: " You can prevent or delay the onset of type 2 diabetes through a healthy lifestyle. Change your diet, increase your level of physical activity, maintain a healthy weight...with these positive steps, you can stay healthier longer and reduce your risk of diabetes"  see atttached link  http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/prevention/  As well publishings from ADA and The National Institute of Diabetes as follows: "There is now substantial evidence that type 2 diabetes can be prevented or delayed. Individuals at high risk of developing diabetes (those with pre-diabetes) can be identified easily. It is not yet known whether the successful interventions will cost-effectively reduce the morbidity and mortality associated with diabetes. Diabetes prevention policies that focus on lifestyle modification, specifically modest weight loss and increased physical activity, are also very likely to have additional health benefits. Public health messages, health care professionals, and health care systems should all encourage behavior changes to achieve a healthy lifestyle. see attached link http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/26/suppl_1/s62.full.


So yes there are many varying opinions about Type 2.  And certainly not every T2 can be placed in the category of preventable or reversible.  I agree with you about that.  Generally speaking though, you would have to agree that there are many T2 Diabetics that can take measures to change their diet and increase exercise (whether underweight, optimal weight or overweight) as directed by their physicians and they have had positive results reversing their  T2 diagnosis.  Because the insulin resistance has descreased as a result of healthier choices FOR SOME.


I couldnt agree with you more that the fighting is inexcusable and a waste of time when everyone could be joining together to raise awareness and education and give clarity to their disease and a name that reflects the nature of their disease...not a number.  


So glad you support name revisions.  I really believe its a small step in the right direction for T1 & T2.  I also believe the Petitioners state that they would leave the new name choices up to the medical field.  But simply offered suggestions as a way to start the process.  The revised name suggestions...were simply that...suggestions.  In closing, i do see your point...but I think their focus really is primarly on name revisions to begin with...and it looks like we can all agree on that at least :)  Thanks

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 6:05PM #21
miciosmom
Posts: 6

I'm not a doctor or medical professional either, but when soneone claiming they are doing something for all diabetics says something  as foolish is T2s can delay and even prevent the disease by lifestyle changes, and it gets ignored, it bothers me.  Dr. Oz was criticized for saying that, and rightly so.


I never said I disagreed with a name change--in fact I said more than once I agreed with that part.  I do have problem some of the yhings said about the petition.  It won't do a thing to change the fighting within the diabetic community, and the fighting is even more inexcusable than public ignorance.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 9:49AM #20
mber
Posts: 3


Please remember, these women are  mothers of  Type-1 children, they are not  Doctors or medical professionals, and they have never claimed to be.  I think their passion for T1 & T2 clarity, awareness, education and fundraising for their sons diseases is what prompted them to pursue a name revision petition. The Media's nationwide gross misrepresentation and inaccurate blame and accusations of poor diet and exercise for  both types of Diabetes (esp T2) ...are the ones who need to be educated and held accountable for adding to the confusion and misconceptions.  Believe it or not there are even many Doctors that admit they would like to know more and learn me about these diseases.  The kids are our future... so I see nothing wrong with the many people choosing to support the petition for the kids.  But that does not mean their support and others support and efforts are limited to the kids, it of course includes every single person living with Diabetes. There are many choosing to support the petition for Adults with both classifications too! It is not about one age group versus the other... or one type vs the other.  It is about the Clarity for each Disease and their names that reflect the nature of each Disease.  They are two different medical conditions.  They deserve clarity so that awareness,  education, a greater efforts for a cure for BOTH can be achieved.  Both Type 1 and Type 2 patients have signed the petition.  It is a small step toward bridging the gap while uniquely individualizing each.  Cant wait for the MEDIA to finally "GET IT" too!  Best of luck to these two moms with their D-advocacy and their uniquely positive endeavors for T1 & T2.  


1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2013 - 9:23AM #19
jamiep
Posts: 10

Im sorry you feel the way you do, Miciosmom. I respect everyone's comments even if I do not agree with them. It is my hope that in time we will all be able to see the positive outcomes from our efforts for both T1 & T2 Diabetes. Jeanette and I are pursuing change, awareness and education for all types of Diabetes. Our belief is that we are all in this together- children and adults, T1 and T2, and all other 'types' of D. The comments left on our petition are an emotional testament to how much this means to so many- adults and children alike. I appreciate the discussion and interest that my posting has inspired and I thank everyone who has read our petition as a results. Thank you all for your time.

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